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Guests: John Batchelor, Anatoly Zak, Dr. David Livingston. Topics: Russian space program & ISS participation. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce. This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com. Remember, your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm). For those of you listening to archives on live365.com & rating the programs, please email me the reasons for your rating. This will definitely help improve Space Show programming. Thank you. John Batchelor and I welcomed back Anatoly Zak (http://russianspaceweb.com) to discuss reports that Russian plans to end its ISS participation in 2020. Mr. Zak cautioned us several times during our Hotel Mars segment that with Russia, there is a big difference in their rhetoric as compared to their reality. We also talked about the threat to leave the ISS as a negotiating ploy to remove or at least scale back the sanctions against the Russian government. Anatoly was asked if the station could be operated without the Russian control center and participation. He said no but that it might be possible to enter into a commercial type agreement with Russia to buy their operating services if they did pull out. Other issues discussed included the smaller replacement Russian space station, the Russian economy and their lunar plans along with the coming test flight of the Angara rocket. As the segment ended, I asked Anatoly if Russia had been following the news of the Antares and Virgin Galactic accidents. He said they follow rocket news closely but was unsure if VG was on their horizon. Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog. You can email Mr. Batchelor through me and for Anatoly, you can reach him through is website or me.