Broadcast 2968 SPECIAL TIME: Open Lines

18 Aug 2017 Dr. David Livingston
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Guest:  Dr. David Livingston with Open Lines;  Topics: Our topi8cs included planetary protection, related to animal abuse on Earth, The Humane Society, animal legal rights insects & more.  Please direct all comments and questions regarding specific Space Show programs & guest(s) to the Space Show blog which is part of archived program on our website,   Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See   

Welcome to this special edition of Open Lines on a Friday evening.  During our 90 minute one segment program, after the announcements and a few suggested topics, Paul Shapiro of The Humane Society called us. Paul has published an article that attempts to connect dots with Article 9 of the OST on Planetary Protection with how we treat animals here on Earth.  His article titled "Are we doing more to protect potential aliens on other planets than animals here on Earth?" can be found at  Paul and I discussed his thesis, animal abuse, factory farming, animal diseases jumping species, the reasons for planetary protection, and more for about half an hour.  While I agreed with Paul on needing better animal treatment, I had a hard time relating it to planetary protection.  Listen to the discussion, read Paul's article and let us know what you think by posting your comments on the blog.  I will make sure Paul sees all the comments posted regarding this subject. 

Kim from Mexico and Moonwards was our next caller.  Given that Paul talked about clean meat (listen to what Paul said about that), Kim suggested we might look to insects for longer duration mission and settlement nutrition.   Kim made a strong case for eating insects due to their nutritional value and utility for spaceflight but as you will hear, I'm not sure space settlers will look forward to insect cuisine in their lunar or Mars dining room.  She did mention related comments on this subject in a talk given by Andreas at the recently held Starship Congress though Andreas focused on fish, not insects.  Kim then gave us a brief Moonwards update, she commented on my telling everyone at the start of the show that NSS was now selling ISDC CDs.  She thought it would do more good to get the conference material and presentations out to interested parties free of charge.  Listen to what she said on this topic. I think she was right but obviously some events see their content as a source of revenue.  While Kim was talking to us, B John sent in an email addressed to both Kim and me.  I read it in full, including the snarkiness.  Kim responded as did I. Our discussion also included comments about the value of having attended this event given my introductory remarks about the good time I had at the Congress with Haym, Kim, John and others. Both Kim and I had more to say about the Congress and the importance of having attended the event given the question sent us at the end of last Friday's program by Adrian. 

While waiting for additional listener emails or phone calls on this trial Friday night OL program, I went over the upcoming Space Show schedule for the rest of August and September. 

Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog for this show.  If you want to reach Paul or Kim, you can do so through me.




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