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Guests: Michael Listner, Andrew Rush. Topics: The legal news and proceedings regarding SpaceX challenges to the Blue Origin Sea Landing Patent & Air Force certification delays for SpaceX & SpaceX litigation in the block buy matter. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience. We welcomed attorneys Michael Listner and Andrew Rush to the program to go behind the scenes to discuss the Blue Origin Sea Landing Patent which SpaceX is challenging given its goal of landing its first stage on a barge. We also discussed the Air Force delaying SpaceX certification which may impact SpaceX bidding on the upcoming NRO launch contract & the SpaceX litigation challenging the block buy. Note that Andrew Rush is a patent attorney so he led the discussion regarding the Blue patent in the first segment of our program. In the first segment of our 1 hour 45 minute program, Michael and Andrew discussed the Blue Origin Sea Landing patent and the SpaceX challenge to it. The discussion included some important facts and basics about U.S. and international patent law and as you will hear, it can be quite different, along with the patent courts, than U.S. civil law. Andrew went into detail about how broad the Sea Landing Patent is, the areas for challenge, the SpaceX position and more. We also talked infringement penalties, the likelihood of settlement negotiations, and our guests even gave us their opinion as to the probable outcome of the challenge to the Blue Origin patent. It is an excellent discussion of a complex issue of interest to all of us listening to this program. In the second segment, Michael spent most of the time explaining the Air Force delay in SpaceX certification for national security and DOD satellite launches. He also explained how this delay might adversely impact the ability of SpaceX to bid on the upcoming NRO launch contract. Michael and Andrew discussed the latest news regarding the SpaceX litigation against the Air Force regarding the block buy, the motions that have been filed so far, what happens to those numerous motions, and the possible outcome for this litigation. For both segments, listeners asked several questions pertaining to either the Blue patent or the SpaceX certification and block buy matter. Please post your questions/comments on TSS blog above. You can reach either guest through me. Andrew also has a blog you might want to follow, http://ipinspace.com.