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Guests: John Batchelor, Dr. Frank Martin, Dr. David Livingston. Topics: The NRC study "Pathways to Exploration: Rationales and Approaches for a U.S. Program of Human Space Exploration." You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. We do not permit the commercial use of any Space Show program or part thereof, nor do we permit Space Show programs to be edited, placed on YouTube, or other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted in news articles, papers, academic & research work but must be cited or referenced in the proper citation format. Contact Dr. Livingston for questions about our copyright and trademark policies which we do enforce. This program is archived on The Space Show website, podcasting, and blog sites with permission from John Batchelor. Please visit the John Batchelor Show website for more information about this fine program, www.johnbatchelorshow.com. Remember, your Amazon Purchases Can Help Support The Space Show/OGLF (www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm). For those of you listening to archives on live365.com & rating the programs, please email me the reasons for your rating. This will definitely help improve Space Show programming. Thank you. We welcomed to Hotel Mars Dr. Frank Martin who was part of the study team for the National Research Council's "Pathways to Exploration: Rationales and Approaches for a U.S. Program of Human Space Exploration" study. You can download a free copy of the 280 page report as a pdf document at www.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=18801. Dr. Martin introduced us to the report which focused on the goal of human spaceflight to Mars. During our Hotel Mars summary of the report and related issues, we discussed the problems with constrained budgets, the risks it poses for our human spaceflight program, and the leadership vacuum it creates in the U.S. human spaceflight program. John asked Dr. Martin about radiation, the use of the ISS, using the Moon to facilitate Mars, and the incremental approach to going to Mars. At the end of the 11.5 minute segment, Dr. Martin was asked about the private sector doing the Mars human spaceflight mission, particularly SpaceX. Please post any comments/questions you might have on The Space Show blog. You can contact any of us through email@example.com.