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Guest: Dennis Wingo. Topics: NASA ARM Mission, RTM, HSF to Mars, solar system economic development & more. Please direct all comments and questions regarding Space Show programs/guest(s) to the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com . Comments and questions should be relevant to the specific Space Show program. Written Transcripts of Space Show programs are a violation of our copyright and are not permitted without prior written consent, even if for your own use. We do not permit the commercial use of Space Show programs or any part thereof, nor do we permit editing, YouTube clips, or clips placed on other private channels & websites. Space Show programs can be quoted, but the quote must be cited or referenced using the proper citation format. Contact The Space Show for further information. In addition, please remember that your Amazon purchases can help support The Space Show/OGLF. See www.onegiantleapfoundation.org/amazon.htm. For those listening to archives using live365.com and rating the programs, please email me as to why you assign a specific rating to the show. This will help me bring better programming to the audience. We did have a few audio problems as Dennis used a cell phone and we lost the connection a few times due to storms across N. California. We welcomed back Dennis Wingo for this 93 minute discussion. PLEASE NOTE THAT WE ARE NOW CONDUCTING OUR ANNUAL FUND RAISING DRIVE. WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE SPACE SHOW AND ITS PROGRAMMING EFFORT. During our first segment, Dennis talked about his recent blog article at http://denniswingo.wordpress.com, To ARM or Not To ARM: Is That Really Our Question. I urge you to download and read this article as Dennis refers to it many times over during our discussion. He started out with an analysis of what was thought to be the NASA ARM mission as compared to what it has become today. As you will hear, he was supportive of the initial mission, not the current evolved mission. He explained why the shift in his position which was based on making the ARM mission a minimalist type mission. He explained the differences in detail. Budget reasons were cited as a primary reason for the mission being downgraded. Dennis offered us an historical analysis & perspective of the NASA budget. SLS, Falcon Heavy, & lots of space policy made it to this segment. Dennis talked about solar electric propulsion for ARM, then he was asked about the likelihood of the next president initiating an RTM program. Doug emailed about a COTS like program with ULA & Masten for a lunar lander. Dennis had much to say about a lunar lander dating back to the Gemini era up to new, lower cost ideas coming from the commercial space industry. In the second segment, Dennis continued talking about the upcoming new Congress and what might emerge as a different type program with a different budget though he thought we were more likely to entertain the status quo. Several listeners wanted to know if it would boil down to the Moon vs. ARM or the Moon vs. Mars. Don't miss his response to these questions. Our guest suggested we all watch the "Wanderers" video which you can see at http://vimeo.com/108650530. Dennis mentioned that we did not need a government program as such for space but he did speak in favor of public/private partnerships. We spoke much about the need for space and lunar infrastructure. Sally asked him to explain the difference with the economic development of the solar system and space settlement. He said space settlement was very much a part of a space economic development effort. In response to another set of listener questions, Dennis talked about the 90-10 rule when has about robots in space as compared to astronauts. Doug called to talk about investment capital for commercial space plus other issues. I then asked Dennis if Lunar Cots or industrialization was included in solar system economic development and if so, at what stage? Kirk emailed in a question challenging the role played by offering prizes. Don't miss what Dennis had to say in response to Kirk's email. Before we ended the program, Dennis mentioned his latest blog article about Apollo betrayed by the very people who made the Apollo mission happen. You can read this article at http://denniswingo.wordpress.com. Please post your comments/questions on TSS blog above. You can reach Dennis through his blog and articles or through me.