We welcomed Cristina Chaplain back to the program for a two segment 90 minute discussion regarding the GAO, space, DOD, national security, congress and other key relationships.  Ms Chaplain recently retired from her director position at the GAO so we got a good, accurate and reflective perspective on NASA, human spaceflight, launchers, public private partnerships, DOD and space plus much more.  We started our important discussion with our guest going over the official GAO relationship with Congress and the areas covered by her former division and expertise.

Guest:  Michael Listner; Topics:  War as a tool of law, Lawfare and space, state actors compared to the emergence of private actors in space.

Guest:  John Spencer; Topics:  space tourism, The Space Tourism Society, earth tourism analogs, social profits compared to financial profits, space tourism careers and opportunities plus more.

Guest:  Andrew Chanin;  Topics:  Global space Exchange-Traded Fund (ET), commercial space investing, aerospace opportunities, exchange-traded products, mutual funds, space investment influencing issues.

Guest:  Robert (Bob) Zimmerman;  Topics:  SpaceX Starship progress, NASA lunar program, Congress,  budgets, private sector excitement, tax dollars vs. private dollars and much more.