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Guests: Open Lines with Dr. David Livingston. Topics: Space Show December schedule changes, Phobos-Grunt, MSL, OMB & Mars missions, Space X, NASA policy, human spaceflight & more. You are invited to comment, ask questions, and discuss the Space Show program/guest(s) on the Space Show blog, http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com. Comments, questions, and any discussion must be relevant and applicable to Space Show programming. Transcripts of Space Show programs are not permitted without prior written consent from The Space Show (even if for personal use) & are a violation of the Space Show copyright. The Space Show/OGLF is now engaged in its annual fundraising drive. Please see & act upon our appeal at http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/space-show-2011-fundraising.... Welcome to our Open Lines discussion. We started the discussion with a few announcements. First, I talked about the Droid smartphone podcast timing issue that a few listeners have called to my attention. For those experiencing this timing issue, I hope the information shared with you from other listeners was helpful. Please let me know either way. Also, listener Theron emailed me as I was preparing the archives and said "Google Listen after the show stops you can go back to the pod cast and it will start up again where it last stopped. They can also go to live 365 and listen there with no problem or listen to the archives and do the same thing." I next talked about my December 2011 schedule which is going to be weird to say the least given my need to be in S. California for a good part of the month for family and medical reasons. Please listen to the discussion on the probable changes for the month and check the website newsletter as I will update everyone on live and replay programs & the use of the toll free phone line when I have updated information. The first listener question after the announcements asked for my opinion on being able to save Phobos-Grunt (P-G) and the upcoming MSL launch scheduled for Saturday morning. Regarding the Russian Mars venture, I was not optimistic about its success but like everyone else, I remain hopeful. I then mentioned some of the various blog comments I have seen on P-G and why most of the comments were absurd, showing a total lack of understanding of basic physics and engineering & the P-G mission architecture. Our friend Charles called in to talk about the science missions of NASA & to offer his perspective on the human spaceflight part of NASA. He brought us current with the N-Prize and his Microlaunchers program. He got a question asking for his perspective on the Google Lunar X-Prize. Charles & I disagreed as Charles does not think anyone can win it or be successful. Charles addressed the blog comments re P-G which I mentioned earlier as Charles does understand the science & engineering involved in a space mission. When we returned from our break, Arnie sent in an email about the OMB possibly killing future Mars mission. I read excerpts from a news release on the issue. John called in, said we were in a space survival mode. He wanted to know more about the blog article by Trent, "The Case Against Space X." Making it clear that I disagreed with Trent, I read excerpts of his article on air as The Space Show airs all sides of issues regardless of my position on the issue. I do hope Trent turns out to be wrong. I suppose we will find out in time as Space X and our program continues it evolution. John asked Charles a question about space debris from his Microlaunchers idea. Charles replied by email saying "main ML missions are to the space between orbits of Mars, Earth. Literally trillions as much space as LEO altitudes. Space exploration begins beyond escape." Please post your comments/questions on The Space Show blog URL above. If you have Droid suggestions, do put them on the blog. December scheduling or fundraising questions, please email me.